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I was at the local Native American Casino yesterday, 6X points on a holiday promo...only 3X points for VP! I played the many varieties of VP on .25 cent machines, max bet $1.25 for around 4 hours. I got close to 10,000 points by the time I left. 3 or 4 4OAK's, No SF or RF. I lost $100 for my session. 8/5 JOB machines, a little BP and DDB
I'm mainly writing to ask what is the fascination with Video Keno?????????? The sheep seem to be totally enthralled with it. .05, .25, $1.00 denominations are packed with players, usually hogging the multi-game machines that I like for VP.
I just don't get it. This is why I need my iPod while playing VP, that constant sound of the plunk, plunk, plunk from the keno balls dropping makes me crazy!!!
I'm mainly writing to ask what is the fascination with Video Keno?????????? The sheep seem to be totally enthralled with it. .05, .25, $1.00 denominations are packed with players, usually hogging the multi-game machines that I like for VP.
I just don't get it. This is why I need my iPod while playing VP, that constant sound of the plunk, plunk, plunk from the keno balls dropping makes me crazy!!!
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FleaStiff
- There are plenty of Keno strategies online that will make you lose. It's time for a no-nonsense guide on how to win at Keno. Only tips that actually work.
- Feb 27, 2020 Keno is a casino game with Chinese origins in which you select numbers to bet on and are paid if those numbers are randomly chosen as hits. Keno is mostly a game of luck and payouts tend to be pretty low, but you can employ a few.
As a professional Keno Player, let me tell you that fascination is the proper word. Why you need only attend our annual televised three-day event, The World Series of Keno and see all those gorgeous women throwing themselves at the feet of the world's best Keno players to realize how fascinating Keno can be. Since I play Keno for a living, I have to play both Live Keno and Video Keno so I am expert in each! Live Keno with its forty percent house edge can be great. Its kind of slow, but you can bet as little as one dollar a game and its great fun before the bus-driver from the retirement home shows up to take you back. And you get a free cup of coffee from the casino to boot!!
Now the real action for us Keno Professionals is in Video Keno. Just think, you put up an image of Cleopatra and the machine rakes in money hand over fist. You don't have to pay no licensing fees to use Cleopatra's image. Indeed you better not use Cleopatra's image because she was only thirteen years old at the time, but those Video Keno machines make a mint. Twelve percent house edge and the players get to chat with their neighbors about strategy and even get a freebie from the casino every now and then. The current rage is Four Card Keno with 5 spots. Now I happen to teach a seminar on my super secret strategy where I throw the terms 'edge' and 'overlap' around alot, so you take my seminar and after that I'll let you know why the casinos love slot machine players.
IMPORTANT NOTE: The above was intended to be a humorous post. I am regretful that apparently someone took it seriously.
To be precise:
There is no such thing as a professional keno player. The house edge is far too great for anyone to make a living at keno. Ever!
There is no such thing as a World Series of Keno. Since it does not exist, it certainly is never televised!
There are no gorgeous women throwing themselves at the feet of these non-existent professional keno players.
Most of the women who play keno if they threw themselves at a man's feet would need a cane to get up again.
Video keno does have a better payout than Live Keno, but its still a bad payout and it is played rapidly so its a relentless house edge.
I do not teach any keno seminars about a super secret strategy. There is no such thing as a strategy for playing keno. None. All those people who talk about 'edge' and 'overlap' on keno cards are idiots if they believe that nonsense.
Cleopatra was indeed 13 years old at the time she met Julius Ceasar she has been dead far too long to collect royalties on Cleopatra Keno.
Keno is entertainment for people who enjoy giving money to a casino. If you are one of those who enjoy playing against a whoppingly high house edge, so be it.
Now the real action for us Keno Professionals is in Video Keno. Just think, you put up an image of Cleopatra and the machine rakes in money hand over fist. You don't have to pay no licensing fees to use Cleopatra's image. Indeed you better not use Cleopatra's image because she was only thirteen years old at the time, but those Video Keno machines make a mint. Twelve percent house edge and the players get to chat with their neighbors about strategy and even get a freebie from the casino every now and then. The current rage is Four Card Keno with 5 spots. Now I happen to teach a seminar on my super secret strategy where I throw the terms 'edge' and 'overlap' around alot, so you take my seminar and after that I'll let you know why the casinos love slot machine players.
IMPORTANT NOTE: The above was intended to be a humorous post. I am regretful that apparently someone took it seriously.
To be precise:
There is no such thing as a professional keno player. The house edge is far too great for anyone to make a living at keno. Ever!
There is no such thing as a World Series of Keno. Since it does not exist, it certainly is never televised!
There are no gorgeous women throwing themselves at the feet of these non-existent professional keno players.
Most of the women who play keno if they threw themselves at a man's feet would need a cane to get up again.
Video keno does have a better payout than Live Keno, but its still a bad payout and it is played rapidly so its a relentless house edge.
I do not teach any keno seminars about a super secret strategy. There is no such thing as a strategy for playing keno. None. All those people who talk about 'edge' and 'overlap' on keno cards are idiots if they believe that nonsense.
Cleopatra was indeed 13 years old at the time she met Julius Ceasar she has been dead far too long to collect royalties on Cleopatra Keno.
Keno is entertainment for people who enjoy giving money to a casino. If you are one of those who enjoy playing against a whoppingly high house edge, so be it.
Martin
For the same reason that people everywhere flock to BINGO - low investment + large prize potential coupled with no thinking necessary.
MathExtremist
That's true for Keno, but there's a lot of thinking going on in Bingo, at least with live paper-based games. I grew up with video games and I have reasonably good reflexes. Yet there are veteran bingo players over twice my age playing 18 cards at a time who can out-daub me. Indeed, of all the wagering games commonly offered in Las Vegas, oft-overlooked Bingo requires the most well-tuned reflexes of all of them. If you don't believe me, just ask anyone who's ever slept a bingo in a crowded game, only to lose on the next ball.'In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice.' -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
FleaStiff
At the rate they call out numbers in Hawaiian Gardens, California no one can fall asleep. Nod off for fourteen seconds and you've missed two, perhaps three, numbers.
mkl654321
The best paytables at video keno return 92-94% (though the latter is rare), so the players at those games are usually getting a better gamble than slot players. Plus, there's the somewhat hypnotic aspect of the bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop....The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
TIMSPEED
I'm not sure what it is either...when I want to play a vP machine, it's always someone on it either playing video keno or mindless 5c vP (1 nickle at a time)Now, I'm saying I've never played video keno, and I've WON at video keno (I've hit $200-$300 off of a 25c bet), but if I'm actually there to play, you can believe I'm playing vP.
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
punterdad
Hi fleastiff, I play mainly 4 card keno in tunica and vicksburg and love it. I am retired and can take a little money and have something to do, I have hunted, trapped and fished all my life but I have never had this much fun. I am very interested in you seminar on strategy, I am always looking for something or information on keno. I can play blackjack, video poker ect but I think that they are boring and I can bet with my money (cheap). I have hit some good things one 8 spot several 7, lots of 6out of 6s and have been playing for about 2 years. When my wife retires we plan to move to vegas or some area around their, they have cut the pay tables on vide poker and some keno here (wife hates keno loves vp) maybe I will be able to catch one of your semiars. Punter dad
JL2
I play keno whenever I take a break from vp and I've hit some good progressive jackpots, although not often. It may not be a very smart game to play because of the payback, but most of their jackpots are much higher than the 4000 credits received for a royal flush. That's what makes it fun.
MrRalph
with the right paytable and a little luck video keno can be a very profitable game. Low risk ,high reward ,where else in the casino can you bet 25 cents and win $1175 for an 8 of 9 hit or $1750 for a 7 of 7 which has slightly better odds than hitting a royal flush in vP where you have to play $1.25 to win a thousand. Do not get me wrong it can be a boring game and you hit long spells between hits sometimes but it is a good change every now and then. I love to shoot craps and Play Black Jack or Spanish 21 but I always play some video Keno and it has been profitable. Who knows with that said I might not hit another jackpot for a long time but my last trip I hit a 8 of 9 with two 6 of 7's for a nice jackpot. Had the 8 of 9 been a nine of nine well that would have just made my year. Its always only if.
x7x7x7
I have Played keno for years always thinking it was trully random and have enjoyed the game yes I've lost more than I won but never my mortgage payment lol so it was only for entertainment and I have enjoyed playing and ever so often hit a nice 7-spot or 8-spot or 8 of 9 etc for a nice payday but now after reading this this seems like it could make sense I hope its not true would take away alotta the fun of keno knowing its not trully random.... Does anyone work for a company like IGT or something and answer this with a def yes or no? Thanks
One of the most technical explanations of how a video keno game works was delivered to me from a reader who claims to have received the information from a former technician of a major slot manufacturer.
Now, I don’t endorse this explanation or suggest that it is a true reflection of how keno machines work. But I thought it might prove interesting, if not worthwhile, to our readers. Here is the explanation, in the reader’s own words:
These machines are designed and programmed to do one thing. Pay the house a certain pre-determined percentage of every dollar gambled, and I have been assured that if the machine has not registered enough intake of money to enable it to pay out a major jackpot, it will not hit no matter how many times or how often you re-set your numbers. These machines have a three phase program written into them.
Phase one … there isn’t enough money to pay a jackpot. This is when the machine will somehow manage to miss your numbers most of the time, hitting small pays just often enough to keep the 'it’s due' type of player feeding it.
Phase two is the real kicker. When the machine has enough money to pay out a jackpot without hurting the house 'hold' it actually switches over to a second program that is truly run via a random number generator. At this point the machine is actually running an honest RNG program, and your numbers may or may not hit depending on how lucky you are. This is when your true odds of hitting a jackpot based on the number of spots picked come into play. The more numbers picked, the longer the odds. (One note here: Almost all these machines except those connected to a progressive jackpot, pay the same maximum jackpot for an 8-, 9- or 10-spot. So why play a 10-spot when an 8-spot pays the same and your odds of hitting one are exponentially better?)
The third phase programmed into the game is the one you hope you’re lucky enough to have running when you put your money in and pick your numbers. Everyone from the Gaming Control Board to the manufacturer will deny this even under the pain of death, but just remember it is a computer and it can be programmed to do anything you want it to do. And it is the only way that a machine manufacturer can guarantee the house that they will make their percentage in profit. When these machines switch over to the third tier of the program, it reads that the machine is holding far in excess of what it is programmed to earn for the house, usually from 15 percent to 18 percent. It’s just way too close to the maximum 25 percent hold mandated by state gaming regulations. Now it doesn’t matter what numbers you pick, they are going to hit!
Interesting stuff, wouldn’t you say? Beyond that, I don’t have a clue whether this is an accurate explanation of a video keno program. And, of course, the game manufacturers aren’t talking.
One of the most technical explanations of how a video keno game works was delivered to me from a reader who claims to have received the information from a former technician of a major slot manufacturer.
Now, I don’t endorse this explanation or suggest that it is a true reflection of how keno machines work. But I thought it might prove interesting, if not worthwhile, to our readers. Here is the explanation, in the reader’s own words:
These machines are designed and programmed to do one thing. Pay the house a certain pre-determined percentage of every dollar gambled, and I have been assured that if the machine has not registered enough intake of money to enable it to pay out a major jackpot, it will not hit no matter how many times or how often you re-set your numbers. These machines have a three phase program written into them.
Phase one … there isn’t enough money to pay a jackpot. This is when the machine will somehow manage to miss your numbers most of the time, hitting small pays just often enough to keep the 'it’s due' type of player feeding it.
Phase two is the real kicker. When the machine has enough money to pay out a jackpot without hurting the house 'hold' it actually switches over to a second program that is truly run via a random number generator. At this point the machine is actually running an honest RNG program, and your numbers may or may not hit depending on how lucky you are. This is when your true odds of hitting a jackpot based on the number of spots picked come into play. The more numbers picked, the longer the odds. (One note here: Almost all these machines except those connected to a progressive jackpot, pay the same maximum jackpot for an 8-, 9- or 10-spot. So why play a 10-spot when an 8-spot pays the same and your odds of hitting one are exponentially better?)
The third phase programmed into the game is the one you hope you’re lucky enough to have running when you put your money in and pick your numbers. Everyone from the Gaming Control Board to the manufacturer will deny this even under the pain of death, but just remember it is a computer and it can be programmed to do anything you want it to do. And it is the only way that a machine manufacturer can guarantee the house that they will make their percentage in profit. When these machines switch over to the third tier of the program, it reads that the machine is holding far in excess of what it is programmed to earn for the house, usually from 15 percent to 18 percent. It’s just way too close to the maximum 25 percent hold mandated by state gaming regulations. Now it doesn’t matter what numbers you pick, they are going to hit!
Interesting stuff, wouldn’t you say? Beyond that, I don’t have a clue whether this is an accurate explanation of a video keno program. And, of course, the game manufacturers aren’t talking.
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nyuhoosier
This is the kind of tripe that surfaces a lot on this board -- conspiracy theories based on second- or third-hand information. It's in casinos' interest to offer fair games because the house edge -- particularly in KENO(!!) -- is already on their side. No need to risk everything by cheating. Plus, they're highly regulated, at least in Nevada.
People who lose again and again need to rationalize it with the conclusion that the game must be fixed. Notice that some guy heard this from some guy. Yeah, it's interesting, but show me the facts.
People who lose again and again need to rationalize it with the conclusion that the game must be fixed. Notice that some guy heard this from some guy. Yeah, it's interesting, but show me the facts.
Wizard
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This is the kind of tripe that surfaces a lot on this board -- conspiracy theories based on second- or third-hand information. It's in casinos' interest to offer fair games because the house edge -- particularly in KENO(!!) -- is already on their side. No need to risk everything by cheating. Plus, they're highly regulated, at least in Nevada.
People who lose again and again need to rationalize it with the conclusion that the game must be fixed. Notice that some guy heard this from some guy. Yeah, it's interesting, but show me the facts.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
7craps
Yeah, it's interesting, but show me the facts.
Book: License to Steal: Nevada's Gaming Control System in the Megaresort Age
An excellent and fun book to read.
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There WAS cheating back then, and they had HE on slots back then,in the mid 80s and 90s, so then they must have cheated because they were greedy. Only reason I could figure.
But no one is greedy any more, from Wall Street to Casinos and Banks. Im sure they all learned their lessons and will be 100% honest til the end.
I say, if someone (a casino anywhere in the world)wants to cheat, they will, regardless of risk being caught. History has shown it HAS happened and I am sure it continues to happen.
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
JerryLogan
This is the kind of tripe that surfaces a lot on this board -- conspiracy theories based on second- or third-hand information. It's in casinos' interest to offer fair games because the house edge -- particularly in KENO(!!) -- is already on their side. No need to risk everything by cheating. Plus, they're highly regulated, at least in Nevada.
People who lose again and again need to rationalize it with the conclusion that the game must be fixed. Notice that some guy heard this from some guy. Yeah, it's interesting, but show me the facts.
That's just it. Who's going to show anyone any facts about what's done with video gaming machines? We're in a recession right now and anything's possible if it weren't already. All we have to go by are Gaming Regs, and who's to say if they're complete or if they have multiple interpretations available.
People will lie, companies will cheat, governments will mislead; happens all the time. I believe machine fairness is an individual perception, bounded by hope that everything's on the up & up.
mkl654321
At least one player who is known, and almost certainly, dozens who are not, have managed to exploit the non-randomness of video keno machines to win large sums. The key is that there is no such thing as a true random number generator, without going into the technical details.As to whether the machines can be set to 'cheat'--well, we all know this is trivial to do. It is also completely undetectable. Even if the Gaming Control Board were to descend on a casino, guns drawn, and spirit away all the video keno machines with the purpose of carrying them back to their underground lair and making them confess--well, the act of powering the machines down would destroy any loaded program (in software, not in firmware). And I doubt very much whether any clueless third party could ever decode the program anyway.
So the question is, they can cheat--but would they? Well, first, you have to define 'cheat'. The casinos have already decided, AND THE COURTS AGREE WITH THEM, that fiddling with the outcome of a 'random' slot machine event is NOT cheating. If a reel slot was going to display (blank) 7 7, the program will rearrange the outcome to 7 7 (blank), making the customer's heart skip a beat, rather than the anticlimactic initial blank.
Igt Cleopatra Keno
So as long as the eventual preset payback is realized, both practice and law (I'm talking Nevada law here, which is more like 1920's Chicago or 1990's Russia law) say that the casino can rearrange those payouts any way they want. Do keno machines cluster results in the way you mention? We'll never know--but the casinos have shown no compunction against mucking with supposedly randomly generated results. The silver lining is that if they ARE doing that, it doesn't actually change your overall chances one way or the other--it just increases your variance (which can actually be a Godsend on a -EV game, as you might hit something big and be able to get away from the damned machine before it crushes you).The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
Wizard
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...the casinos have shown no compunction against mucking with supposedly randomly generated results.
I stand by what I have said many times, that video poker and video keno in Nevada is fair, as if real cards/balls were used. If anyone can provide me evidence that such is not that case, I'll be happy to investigate, and use my bully pulpit to shame any game maker that is not offering an honest and fair game, as well as making a formal complaint to Gaming.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
scotty81
I have to agree with the Wizard. Having worked in the Legal industry for almost 30 years, I can tell you that without question that if this sort of systematic cheating was being perpetrated on the general public by IGT and the casinos that you would see a class action suit filed so fast it would make your brain hurt.Cleopatra Keno Secrets Games
The financial incentives to expose/litigate this sort of cheating far outweigh any advantage either IGT or the casinos would gain from it.That's not to say that there have not been instances in past where shoddy RNGs and clever programmers have found ways to beat the system. But, these were isolated cases, and I believe it is not systemically integrated into the machines.
Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. - Niels Bohr
DorothyGale
People who have no clue how the industry works and have no idea about the levels of oversight and testing protocols are quick to create fantasies to explain their losses. No amount of explanation from experts is going to do; they are just going to believe those who tell them what they want to believe.Best Numbers For Cleopatra Keno
If it sounds just like religious quackery, it is.I believed the 'Wizard' was a wizard until I pulled back the curtain. Now I know he passes every statistical test for fairness created by man.
--Dorothy
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